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Poetry Unbound in Conversation — Adrian Matejka

Poet Adrian Matejka on how music lives in the body before it lives in language, what bullets and boyhood have in common, and why a poem that doesn't swing isn't much of a poem.

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To write a poem without those sounds in my head would be to write a memo or to write an email or something.

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the way that I had navigated the world. I always have music playing when I'm writing, usually jazz or some kind of electronic or with very little language. And so to write a poem without those sounds in my head would be to write a memo or to write an email or something. And so they naturally filter in, I think. Sometimes in the language, sometimes in the line breaks, sometimes in the sort of

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There are two kinds of people: those who walk through the world with a running monologue in their heads, and those who have music playing — and it's how we carry ourselves that lets us navigate the unexpected.

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did all of these tests and at the end of it she said you know there are two kinds of people in the world there's just two kinds either those who walk through the world with a running monologue in their heads or those who have music playing in their heads and it's the way that we carry ourselves that allows us to navigate all of the unexpected things that happen you talk yourself through

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people in the world there's just There are two kinds either of people: those who walk through the world with a running monologue in their heads, or and those who have music playing in their heads and it's the way that how we carry ourselves that allows lets us to navigate all of the unexpected.

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The bullet is a grim onomatopoeia for itself.

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made in America each year. Enough bullets to kill all the earth each year. The bullet hits three times faster than we can hear its concussion. The bullet breaks the air with 2 ,182 mile -an -hour admissions. The bullet is a grim onomatopoeia for itself. The bullet is a slim allegory for a gun -happy nation and its attendant segregations. Lead belly, wrapped into the grinning freedom amendment, a gun is almost

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Most boys fight so much because we can't tell anybody.

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light of weekday pews snakes are baptist guilt minus legs empty baptism rivers are snakes empty dance floors are snakes most snakes are guilty because we need to blame somebody most boys fight so much because we can't tell anybody somebody somebody is a snake in a human hat some human in a red hat snakes his way past the abandoned garden while asking all the wrong questions snakes didn't ask for any of this

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If one center of gravity in a poem is the music, the other one has to be the heart — like binary stars, these two things have to exist at the same time.

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you do is you use your body to express your emotions, not your language. And for poets, I mean, it maybe can be both. But if this one center of gravity in a poem is the music, the other one has to be the heart, right? Like, these two things have to exist at the same time as, like, sort of binary stars. This brings me back to the thought about

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If one center of gravity in a poem is the music, the other one has to be the heart right? like binary stars, these two things have to exist at the same time. as, like, sort of binary stars.

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